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, those cuts would take 13% out of the pentagon's budget. 9% away from nondefense programs, and 11% out of unemployment insurance checks, senior administration officials are telling us that when those cuts begin causing pain across america, they believe republicans will cave under pressure from their constituents and agree to the increased revenue the president wants. just yesterday the president made his argument at a nuclear attack submarine plant in newport news, virginia. >> there are too many republicans in congress right now who refuse to compromise even an inch when it comes to closing tax loopholes and special interest tax breaks. that's what's holding things up right now. >> but republicans disagree and speaker of the house, john boehner, used some very colorful language to describe how unhelpful he thinks president obama's trip away from washington was so close to the deadline for sequestration. >> for 16 months the president has been traveling all over the country holding rallies instead of sitting down with senate leaders in order to try to forge an agreement over there in o
over 100,000 pentagon workers will be furloughed and an hour and a half line at least to get on a plane, more like four hours because they have to be furloughed. wait a second! i thought we were all going to all be affected. >> gretchen: that was monday, tuesday, wednesday. >> steve: right. it looks like the white house and cabinet minute secretaries have -- ministers clearly hyped this whole thing. keep in mind, the white house and the administration has a lot of leeway in how the cuts are administered among the agencies and phil gramm, former senator from texas who helped right the sequestration bill in the 1985s, he's going to be our guest in ten minutes. he's going to tell us about the president, if he makes the choices where they are deliberate, maximum cut for maximum political gain, that would be the wrong thing to do for america. >> gretchen: he seems to be backing off on that now because i think if this crisis ultimately did not happen come saturday, the credibility of the president and his administration would be called into question. meantime, what do you think about this? th
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